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@techcommdood Cars are not green. But some pollute more than others.
- DavidAKnopf about 7 minutes ago
@beverlycornell Even before the crisis, a lot of people were disillusioned with the quality of U.S. cars. There's a lot to overcome here.
- nj_linguist about 7 minutes ago
There should absolutely be a turn signal on cars to indicate UTurn.
- Mokey about 7 minutes ago
when GM and Ford executives return to Washington, this week, they'll be driving in company cars instead of flying in private company jets!
- robschendel about 11 minutes ago
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The Smaller 3 Or The Big 1?



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- New Rule Of Law See Profile I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law permalink

Anyone who looks at the consolidation on Wall Street in the banking industry and thinks that is a good thing, would love there to be only one auto company in America. But look at what happens every time we allow monopolies to exist. When competition no longer provides an incentive for Any business to provide the very best product or service; when those business grow so large that they threaten the very political system that allowed them to flourish; and when the money is so great and concentrated that the people are no longer free, but rather slaves to the Corporate System, then we see a degradation all down the line in those products and services, just as in the old Soviet Union, and the death of Democracy and our rights.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 12/02/2008
- New JoelNH See Profile I'm a Fan of JoelNH permalink

Uh, One US Automaker does not a Monopoly make. They would have plenty of competition from Asian and European automakers.

I suggest you learn what a Monopoly is...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 12/02/2008
- New Oxfordian See Profile I'm a Fan of Oxfordian permalink

Well, lessee (counts on fingers):

Multiplying stupid, slow and arrogant times three, equals one.......?

Hmmm. Must get more fingers.....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 12/02/2008
- cloudsinmycoffee1 See Profile I'm a Fan of cloudsinmycoffee1 permalink


I had to laugh at their first trip to Congress. I thought to myself if I, as a business owner, had approached a bank for a loan for my business without any kind of plan as to how the loan would be used and whether and when I would be able to pay the bank back, I'd be laughed out of the bank. I mean, if this is any indication of these CEOs business acumen, we should all be very afraid of lending them our money.

I understand that this time around there will be no dramatic flying in on corporate jets. Reportedly, the CEO of Ford has decided to forgo the corporate jet this time around and drive to Washington in a Ford Hybrid. No word on how the other two CEOs will travel to Washington, but I can guarantee you it won't be via corporate jet.

I've head stories of union concessions, paring down of product lines, CEO pay being reduced to $1 per year, yada, yada, yada.

However, the Big Three are burning through cash at a rate of almost $5 billion per month. If they are asking for loans in the neighborhood of $25 billion, you can do the math to figure out when they will be back to Congress again with hat in hand. At that rate, I'm afraid that any changes they are willing to make will not show the financial results quickly enough to allow this loan to do them much good.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 12/02/2008