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Cheney: Bush Doesn't Need To Apologize For Not Foreseeing Economic Crisis



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- guntotinganglion See Profile I'm a Fan of guntotinganglion permalink

"He also said he did not have any qualms about the reliability of intelligence obtained through waterboarding _ an interrogation technique simulating drowning used on three top al-Qaida operatives in 2002 and 2003."

With a statement like that on the record, Cheney should be arrested as soon as he is no longer VP. Waterboarding is torture (regardless of "opinions" to the contrary), and even if Cheney doesn't know it, it is never acceptable to torture. We become worse than our enemies when we sink to jungle tactics to extract "intelligence". Cheney is a nihilist who only believes in the end justifying the means...much like virtually every despot in history.

And waterboarding is NOT simulated drowning. It IS drowning...followed by revival. And it is done over and over and over again, until the torturers get exactly what they want. And if Cheney believes it is "safe and effective", perhaps he'd like to have it done to him, so he can prove his theorem?

And is there anyone out there who actually believes them when they say it's only been done to 2 or 3 high value "operatives"? They are admitted torturers, and there is nothing that they can say that could be presumed to be the truth.

Time to PROSECUTE RICHARD CHENEY UNDER THE WAR CRIMES ACT OF 1996...along with his "associates" including the Beast Bush.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 01/09/2009
- Maezeppa See Profile I'm a Fan of Maezeppa permalink

Bush claims the economy is bad because of decisions made up to ten years or more before he became President... decisions he obviously never bothered to reverse.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 01/09/2009
- PhilipTaylor See Profile I'm a Fan of PhilipTaylor permalink

2002 Video of Bush encouraging Banks and Brokers to offer minorities none qualifying home loans and requiring Fannie/Freddie to buy sub-prime mortgages:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx7sjoS8&feature=related

This one is english with German sub-titles and a different twist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&feature=related

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 01/09/2009
- PhilipTaylor See Profile I'm a Fan of PhilipTaylor permalink

This was stage 1 in Bush plan and involved much larger FEES than "Safe" mortgages:

Stage 2 Investment Banks "Slice and Dice" these high risk mortgages into Derivatives!
Banks add Massive Fees to Derivative Paper eating up 15 to 30 years of Appreciation!
Stage 3 Bribe Ratings Agencies to rate HIGH RISK Derivatives as "AAA" paper like T-BILLS
Stage 4 Easy to sell "AAA" paper all over world to innocent victims. Sold paper on a $200,000 at a cost to victim of $400,000 due to imbedded FEES.

It worked like any PONZI Scheme but failed like any PONZI Scheme when the housing stopped appreciating and the Victims refused to buy.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 01/09/2009
- osage See Profile I'm a Fan of osage permalink

Isn't Cheney saying that incompetence is acceptable if it's based on ignorance, arrogance, stupidity and pig-headedness? Is he saying that his and Bush's incompetence make them innocent of wrong doing because they couldn't predict what the consequences of their actions might be despite the fact that there were people who actually predicted an economic collapse wou